Comments on: Towards a forward-thinking Acceptable Use Policy for mobile devices http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/07/towards-a-forward-thinking-acceptable-use-policy-for-mobile-devices/ ...education, technology, productivity. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:10:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: AUP 2.0 at dougbelshaw.com http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/07/towards-a-forward-thinking-acceptable-use-policy-for-mobile-devices/#comment-6289 AUP 2.0 at dougbelshaw.com Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:13:02 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=523#comment-6289 [...] few weeks ago I wrote a blog post entitled Towards a Forward-Thinking Acceptable Use Policy for Mobile Devices. To avoid repeating myself, a lot of what I’m going to say here builds upon that post. As a [...] [...] few weeks ago I wrote a blog post entitled Towards a Forward-Thinking Acceptable Use Policy for Mobile Devices. To avoid repeating myself, a lot of what I’m going to say here builds upon that post. As a [...]

]]> By: Doug Belshaw http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/07/towards-a-forward-thinking-acceptable-use-policy-for-mobile-devices/#comment-6154 Doug Belshaw Fri, 16 May 2008 05:40:05 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=523#comment-6154 <strong>@Mike:</strong> You might be onto something there. Perhaps the school council could be involved in helping shape the AUP policy... :-) <strong>@Steve:</strong> Hmmm... With that particular problem, I think I'd probably have thrown it back at her in the following way. How does she <em>prevent</em> students trading porn magazines in school? How does she <em>prevent</em> grafitti around school? How does she <em>prevent</em>... Pretty soon she should see the bigger picture. It's about educating students and applying school sanctions to technology in the same way they would with anything else. @Mike: You might be onto something there. Perhaps the school council could be involved in helping shape the AUP policy… :-)

@Steve: Hmmm… With that particular problem, I think I’d probably have thrown it back at her in the following way. How does she prevent students trading porn magazines in school? How does she prevent grafitti around school? How does she prevent…

Pretty soon she should see the bigger picture. It’s about educating students and applying school sanctions to technology in the same way they would with anything else.

]]> By: Steve http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/07/towards-a-forward-thinking-acceptable-use-policy-for-mobile-devices/#comment-6153 Steve Thu, 15 May 2008 22:21:59 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=523#comment-6153 Doug, I have for many years been pushing the use of mobile technologies in classrooms in Shropshire. This month I have hit a brick wall with a very competent head teacher when discussing their schools ICT vision document. I was keen to add mobile phones as a useful and acceptable device for educational use, the head teacher asked how they can stop students sending each other porn via bluetooth and until I can give her a solution then mobile phones will be banned from the school campus. It didn't appear to matter what I said about the educational benefits we couldn't get past the movie issue. What do you reckon, how do you move this forward? Doug, I have for many years been pushing the use of mobile technologies in classrooms in Shropshire. This month I have hit a brick wall with a very competent head teacher when discussing their schools ICT vision document. I was keen to add mobile phones as a useful and acceptable device for educational use, the head teacher asked how they can stop students sending each other porn via bluetooth and until I can give her a solution then mobile phones will be banned from the school campus. It didn’t appear to matter what I said about the educational benefits we couldn’t get past the movie issue. What do you reckon, how do you move this forward?

]]> By: Mike Carter http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/07/towards-a-forward-thinking-acceptable-use-policy-for-mobile-devices/#comment-6115 Mike Carter Fri, 09 May 2008 15:23:09 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=523#comment-6115 This debate is interesting. Teachers and the authorities want to provide a safe environment for learning and use this as the lever to ban technology they do not understand and that could be used as a tool against them. Students are comfortable with the technology and if the framework for use is integrated into the school ICT and safety use policy and the appropriate sanction imposed for misuse then mobiles should be allowed. As teachers we should welcome any tools which allow students to access learning. What educators should be concerned with is the quality of the learning content. Some say there is more learning happening before and after school than what is going on in school. In my view we (the educators) should go NATIVE and embrace the technology whilst providing the framework to use the technology appropriately and safely. If using a mobile phone, handheld or minibook for learning engages one student then it is worth it, that is after all what we are in the business for. Maybe asking students to take part in the acceptable use policy is worth exploring then it is their rules they are obeying. Mike This debate is interesting. Teachers and the authorities want to provide a safe environment for learning and use this as the lever to ban technology they do not understand and that could be used as a tool against them. Students are comfortable with the technology and if the framework for use is integrated into the school ICT and safety use policy and the appropriate sanction imposed for misuse then mobiles should be allowed. As teachers we should welcome any tools which allow students to access learning. What educators should be concerned with is the quality of the learning content. Some say there is more learning happening before and after school than what is going on in school.
In my view we (the educators) should go NATIVE and embrace the technology whilst providing the framework to use the technology appropriately and safely. If using a mobile phone, handheld or minibook for learning engages one student then it is worth it, that is after all what we are in the business for. Maybe asking students to take part in the acceptable use policy is worth exploring then it is their rules they are obeying.
Mike

]]> By: Bob Hill http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/07/towards-a-forward-thinking-acceptable-use-policy-for-mobile-devices/#comment-6112 Bob Hill Wed, 07 May 2008 22:57:49 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=523#comment-6112 Don't over complicate any AUP. The more conditions the easier to find exceptions. Ask any lawyer. My AUP would be " don't do anything you would not tell your parents about over tea"! Don’t over complicate any AUP. The more conditions the easier to find exceptions. Ask any lawyer. My AUP would be ” don’t do anything you would not tell your parents about over tea”!

]]> By: Doug Belshaw http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/07/towards-a-forward-thinking-acceptable-use-policy-for-mobile-devices/#comment-6111 Doug Belshaw Wed, 07 May 2008 21:21:30 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=523#comment-6111 <blockquote><em>I need to confirm this with the network manager but my perspective on students not being allowed to use wireless connections at school is to do with overloading the access points.</em></blockquote> 'Overloading' in what way? The data throughput of a wireless router/access point is much more than even a school's Internet connection, so no worries on that front. If you mean in terms of number of operations, then potentially. However, there would have to be several classes connecting to the same access point and doing some fairly data-intensive stuff. I'd be interested what your network administrator has to say... :-)

I need to confirm this with the network manager but my perspective on students not being allowed to use wireless connections at school is to do with overloading the access points.

‘Overloading’ in what way? The data throughput of a wireless router/access point is much more than even a school’s Internet connection, so no worries on that front.

If you mean in terms of number of operations, then potentially. However, there would have to be several classes connecting to the same access point and doing some fairly data-intensive stuff. I’d be interested what your network administrator has to say… :-)

]]> By: nstoneit http://www.dougbelshaw.com/2008/05/07/towards-a-forward-thinking-acceptable-use-policy-for-mobile-devices/#comment-6110 nstoneit Wed, 07 May 2008 21:11:51 +0000 http://www.dougbelshaw.com/?p=523#comment-6110 I need to confirm this with the network manager but my perspective on students not being allowed to use wireless connections at school is to do with overloading the access points. Wireless was installed at our school for e-registration in lessons and registrations and it is essential that access points work for this. Does this sound silly? I'm in two minds but am going to chat to people at school about this. I need to confirm this with the network manager but my perspective on students not being allowed to use wireless connections at school is to do with overloading the access points.

Wireless was installed at our school for e-registration in lessons and registrations and it is essential that access points work for this.
Does this sound silly? I’m in two minds but am going to chat to people at school about this.

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